Sounds great Randy, how long is this in total? Any chance of giving us a 'heads up' when it's released?! [img]wink.gif[/img]
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Sounds great Randy, how long is this in total? Any chance of giving us a 'heads up' when it's released?! [img]wink.gif[/img]
Andy, your approach [& Beats' [img]wink.gif[/img] ] sounds exaclty like the "shorthand" method that i use, AW...I will also place a slash & the # of bars to repeat, depending...& i too use "C, V, B, I [intro], RI ["re-intro"] or DC; O [outro]" instead of A, B, C, etc, even tho i'm still thinking "A, B, C"...& placing hits or licks figures in accordingly...
In the last band i was in [a "showband/variety/comedy" act], i had to learn, like, 80-90 tunes [img]eek.gif[/img] ...there was NO set-list; the frontman would get locked into using about 25 of em normally, but i had to know them ALL in case one was called [off the cuff]...i already knew vaguely only recalled memory parts of MAYBE 5 of em...so i used "Andy/Beat's/Fuse's Shorthand Guide to Drum Charts" [img]wink.gif[/img] , getting most all of them on ONE page [each]...a lot of the songs were not diffucult [by no means Zappa or Chick]; mostly contempo country, 50's & 60's RnR, & certain several popular staple showtune standards in 4 AWA some 3, 6, & 12 [aka lots of #'d repeat signs/DS's/DC's!], but it was a LOT of material to learn from scratch...i had like 2 wks to get it all down, not knowing 98% of it, & then 4-5 days of rehearsals...& the frontman/comedian would stop the song at any time to do a joke, or routine on an audience member; starting back again either where we left off, or from the cap, or from any bar [off the cuff] in the tune...& sometimes he'd go WAY out to the back of the audience w his wireless, causing that "similar-to-but-not-quite-'Doppler' effect" [severe delay between his vox & the band music; not a pitch-bend], & i had to ignore him & keep new band members in sync[another [img]eek.gif[/img] ], AWA myself, sane...& sometimes he would be clowning around w the audience & get off the beat by usually an 8th or 1/4, sometimes 16th [u know what i mean], & we [band] would have to catch this & turn the beat around [the TRUE meaning to the Estefan/MiamiSM song], usually starting w me, & the others conformg to me [on a DIME]...it was the "Frank Zappa Improv Training of Pop/Country/Showtunes" boot camp, 4 shore...
...[Altho i "digress" somewhat] - For chart readg, GBiss has 1 or 2 good instructional vids out for beginning to intermediate-&-beyond...the 1 i had was his "Playing, Reading, & Soloing with a Band"...Will Kennedy has a vid/play-along CD pkg called "Be A Drumhead" [w Bob Gatzen]... Weckl's "Ultimate Play-Along" series has some cool basic tips, & i've heard "Contempo. Drummer + 1" is happenin'...
PS - ANYTHING Gadd [that mp3 with EGomez some1 posted a while back was simply AWESOME - the intro groove was classic-fantastic SG], Jeff, Mickey, JR, Kunkel, Marottas, Newmark, Mason, Vega, Erskine, Weckl, Keltner, Fig, Stv Schaeffer, Fongheiser, etc etc, is GOSPEL on this subject matter...i also liked Chris Blackwell & Chris Hughes that Robert Plant used...Tris Imboden, too...& John Keane, who's on Rich Marx's 1st solo, 4 1...
...Harvey Mason, in clinic back in the 80's, used to be able to play/practiced w the click set on anywhere's from 16th's, 8ths, 1/4's, 1/2's, to wholes, & "double-wholes" [leave that 1 alone, 5! ;=p ], to improve his sense of time/pocket [Yowza] ...
Sash..."It's just frustrating when you come prepared and then you sit around while everyone else is figuring out the changes,etc... "
...SO TRUE. [This can give new meaning to the term "wanting to administer a 'hot coffee & barbed-wire dildo enema'" to some folks...sorry about the crassness, guys :=p]
Good topic...
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 22, 2004 04:11 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>
I recently e-mailed Tommy about the Radioactive dvd and he said that it will be available at the end of february.
Keep an eye on http://www.tommy-denander.com/news.html
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The version I have is only 30 minutes, but Tommy says there is much more. Well over 90 minutes worth.
Mine is Jeff in the studio and then switches to Mike driving Tommy to david Paichs house and them listening to the bed tracks fro Kingdom of Desire. This is the key of knowing it was Jeff's next to last session, for he died just after "KOD" was completed and what there are listening to is minus lead vocals. All the main tracks and background vocals are completed, unfortunetly during this portion of the video it gets a tad crappy so when we put it to DVD we skipped over that. "or I should Say Danny :-)"
What exactly was JP's last session? It wasnt the Les Dudek album, was it?
No, the Les Dudek was in the same year but not he last session. The Tommy Denander has to come very close to being the last session to see the light of day Jeff did. Like I said before, it was recorded in the same time period as Kingdom of Desire and then just days before it's release Jeff died. The proof of this is on the video and if Tommy stays to his word this time, everyone will see this. 1 session to note that was done around the same time period is "Indian Summer" by GO WEST. Jeff played on 1 track titled "Sun and the Moon", killer 6/8 groove.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 22, 2004 08:08 PM: Message edited by: Randy Walker ]</font>
Some of Jeff's last sessions...
1992
Goodrum, Randy / 1 track
Touch (previously appeared on An Exhibition, 1992)
Nakajima, Fumiaki / Girl Like You (Hoshizora, 1992) 2 tracks
Shepard, Vonda / The Radical Light (Reprise, 1992) 3 tracks
Searchin' my soul - 100 tears away - Wake up the house
Silveira, Ricardo / Small world (Verve, 1992) 2 tracks
Small world - Haven't we met
Sing Like Talking / Reunion (Fun House, 1992) 1 track
Stay gold (live)
Orbison, Roy / King of Hearts (Virgin, 1992) 1 track
We'll take the night
Soundtrack (film) / Glengarry Glen Ross (Elektra, 1992) 6 tracks
Main title - You met my wife - The plot - In the car - Don't sell to doctors - The Nyborgs
Soundtrack (film) / Grand Canyon (RCA, 1992)
Soundtrack (film) / Hudson Hawk (Varese Saraband, 1992) 2 tracks
Hudson Hawk theme - Hawk swing?
Soundtrack (film) / Love Potion No. 9 (1992)
Springsteen, Bruce / Human Touch (Columbia, 1992) 12 tracks
Human touch - Soul drive - 57 channels (and nothin' on) - Cross my heart - Gloria's eyes - Roll of the dice - Real world - All or nothin' at all - Man's job - I wish I were blind - The long goodbye - Real man
10cc / Meanwhile (Polydor, 1992) 10 tracks
Woman in love - Wonderland - Fill her up - Something special - Welcome to paradise - The stars didn't show - Green eyed monster - Charity begins at home - Shine a light in the dark - Don't break the promises
Toto / Kingdom of Desire (Relativity, 1992) 12 tracks
Gypsy train - Don't chain my heart - Never enough - How many times - 2 hearts - Wings of time - She knows the devil - The other side - Only you - Kick down the walls - Kingdom of desire - Jake to the bone
Watanabe, Misato / Hello Lovers (Sony, 1992) 2 tracks
Lovin' you - Japanese title
Waters, Roger / Amused To Death (Columbia, 1992) 1 track
It's a miracle
Frampton, Peter / Shine On: A Collection (A&M, 1992)
Crowell, Rodney / Live Is Messy (Columbia, 1992) 1 track
It's not for me to judge
Goodrum, Randy / An Exhibition (Polydor, 1992) 4 tracks
Kawauchi, Junichi / Juice (Fun House, 1992) 9 tracks
Kimi no ude ni dakaretai - Save our love - Virgin smile no kimi - White venus - You're the only one - Rainy weekend - Studio-A no yuujin - Todokanu omoi (Lovesick blues) - Murderess
Matsuda, Hiroyuki / Two Of Us (Tokuma, 1992) 2 tracks
Mendes, Sergio / Brasileiro (Elektra, 1992) 5 tracks
Indiado - Lua Soberana - Senhoras do Amazonas (perc) - Kalimba - Barabare
Go West / Indian Summer (EMI, 1992) 2 tracks
Faithful - The Sun and the moon
B-52s / Good Stuff (A&M, 1992) 3 tracks
Hot pants explosion - Breezin' - Bad influence --
Beck, Robin / Human Instinct (DSB, 1992) 4 tracks
Love yourself - Every little thing - Bad on love - Changing with the years
Cole, Jude / Start the Car (Reprise, 1992) 2 tracks
Open road - Tell the truth
Other relaesed after his passing;
1993
Charles, Ray / My World (Warner, 1993) 2 tracks
If I could - Still crazy after all these years
Cavaliere, Felix / Dreams in Motion (Karambolage, 1994) 3 tracks
Stay in love - Me for you - Youngblood
Crosby, David / Thousand Roads (Atlantic, 1993) 2 tracks
Through your hand - Helpless heart
Steely Dan / Citizen Steely Dan (MCA, 1993)
Scialfa, Patti / Rumble doll (Columbia, 1993) 2 tracks
Come tomorrow - Talk to me like the rain
Moore, Patsy / Regarding the Human Condition (Warner, 1993) 6 tracks
These loving eyes /- A city on a hill - Lies (that I have known) - Shooting the breeze - With regard - The pilgrim song
Hill, Warren / Devotion (RCA, 1993) 1 track
Another goodbye
Young, Paul / The Crossing (Columbia, 1993) 6 tracks
Hope in a hopeless world - Won't look back - Only game in town - Love has no pride - Half a step away - Follow on
Dr. John / Mos' Scocious: The Dr. John Anthology (Rhino, 1993)
Anri / 16th Summer Breeze (1994) 1 track
1994
Cummings, Burton / The Burton Cummings Collection (Rhino, 1994)
Dudek, Les / Deeper Shades of Blue (Geosynchronous, 1994) 9 tracks
Leavin' my blues behind - Love with you - Strange love - Assault and battery - Your love - Maybe forever - Come back to me - Moulin Rouge - You make me ill
Kleinow, "Sneaky Pete" / The Legend & the Legacy (Shiloh, 1994) 2 tracks
Louisiana - Silverbird
Marx, Richard / Paid Vacation (Capitol, 1994) 1 track
Patti, Sandi / Find It On The Wings (1994) 1 track
1995
Clark, Gene / This Bird Has Flown (1995) 1 track
Denander, Tommy / Less Is More Part one (Local Dealer, 1995) 1 track
Denander, Tommy / Limited Access (Noble House, 1997) 2 track
The first title appeared previously on Less Is More Part One (1995)
5492 - Remember my conscience
Elliman, Yvonne / Best of Yvonne Elliman (Polydor, 1995)
Anri / Opus 21 (1995) 1 track
1996
Hawkins, George Jr. / Every Dog Has It's Day (1996) 1 track
Every dog [sample]
Humperdinck, Engelbert / 16 Most Requested Songs (Columbia, 1996) 3 tracks?
Richie, Lionel / Louder Than Words (Motown, 1996) 1 track
Climbing
Williams, Joseph / I Am Alive (Kitty (J), 1996) 1 track
I am alive
1998
Berlin, Jeff / Crossroads (Denon, 1998) 1 track?
DUDE...... 1st off, the Frampton "Shine On" is a collection and the track Jeff did dates back to 1980 or so, a record that has never been released on cd "breaking all of the rules".
Next, I stated last session in the way that it was his last session before passing away. He did allot of stuff in that year and you noted very well Pocket, kudos.
But many of what you listed although was released in 92 or after was not neccesarily recorded before his passing, take for instance the Springsteen stuff, that was recorded in 91 actually at the same time as Lucky Town which featured Gary Mallaber.
The Richard Marx track on Paid Vacation was recorded during a session in late 90 early 91 for the Rush Street disc.
Again, I noted the Tommy Denander as last session because of what's on the video and can be timelined to the fact. I mentioned Go West because it was tracked in 92 and released shortly after his death and they even dedicated the track Sun and the Moon to him.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 23, 2004 09:20 AM: Message edited by: Randy Walker ]</font>
[img]biggrin.gif[/img] Yo Randy...
Not trying to compete here...just offering some of Jeff's last stuff for those who might be interested..that's all.
The timing of the last recording(s) is heart felt for me as a fan because it was the last moments of breath for the man. My interest lies here.
I'm still not sure why Jeff touched me so deeply...I really am not. I've heard hundreds of drummers, but why has Jeff hit me so deeply? I really don't know, or at least can't articulate it. Life is deep at times, and this reminds me of that truth.
Your detailed knowledge of the "biz" reminds me a lot of Robyn Flans' stuff. For guys like me, I can't get enough!
Keep on Keepin'
no competition P.......it's all good [img]wink.gif[/img]